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  1. so a lot of new machines in the last 5 years or so , use a tiny amount of water , not even coming up to the height of the top of the paddles/lifters and I get it for economy reasons and that you can heat up a little amount of water quicker than if it half filled the glass door like the ancient washing machines did, and understand that todays washing powders / liquid are more efficient and need hardly any water to do their job these days. However what I cannot get used to is the fact that if the drum is revolving with this little amount of water now, and the clothes dont get nice and saturated/soaked in water like they used to years ago when the water came up to half the drum / glass door is the motor not working more against friction of clothes, that are nearly dry, rubbing again the glass door and door gasket that if they were suspended in water? I mean a happy medium surely would be if the manufacturers made the water come up to just underneath the door gasket at least no? - this friction is very evident when washing something like a Duvet especially. My 8kg machine has a duvet programme on it. I dont overload it with a king size (dont even think physically a king size duvet would even fit in the drum) so i put in a double duvet, and the amout of water that goes in the drum is miniscule witth this big duvet in so obviously the amount of time its washing its trying to wash this duvet in very little water and its near on bone dry as its going around in the drum and its catching on rubber door gasket and door glass and you can almost see that the motor is having a tough old time trying to turn this drum with this near on dry duvet . I just think it the drum filled up with more water before it even revolves for the first time , and absolutely soaked the duvet the water would 'lubricate' the fabric so there was no friction between the door gasket and door bowl and would help the motor revolve the drum more easily if the duvet was suspended in water. This is evident that it would be better because when it comes to rinsing in duvet programme the rinse water is subsequently much more water goes into the drum , as much as over the bottom of the door gasket lip , and then saturates the duvet in rinse cycle and the motor has a much better time of revolving the drum with the duvet saturated in water like this. Also without water level coming up over the bottom of the lip of the door gasket , you know the bit where you have the 3 drain holes in the gasket, well that gets clogged with soap/powder and hairs and all kinds of things - I reckon it suffer like this much more than the old type washing machines where they used to fill up with water halfway up the drum whilst washing. - And if you were doing a 60c wash and the water was going over the bottom of the lip of the door gasket would not only keep those drain holes in the door gasket clean by dissolving any undissolved powder/liquid in the lip of the gasket the hot 60c water would also kill the germs and bacteria there as well also - with these washing machines these days not even coming anywhere near up to the level of the bottom of the door, then no wonder you have to clean them regularly and keep cleaning the drainage holes all the time otherwise it starts stinking. - talking of stinking washing machines I bet you will find that these washing machines that use very little water in the drums these days smell more that the older washing machines that used to fill up halfway up the door bowl when washing. In fact I myself have noticed that the 'older' washing machine drums smell of nice washing powder smells and the newer ones after a while just smell of stale water even if you do regularly do a maintenance wash and keep the door gasket clean by wiping it down after every wash. Talking of which , the machines use little water mainly for economy , but once a month you are required to do a maintenance wash with nothing in the drum at 90c temp (again a tiny amount of water going into drum not even getting up to the top of the bottom paddle/lifter - so again you would think even the maintenance wash programme they give you would fill right up to the bottom of the glass door bowl so it can soak that part of the door gasket where those drain holes are and where the water gets lodged and doesnt drain away ... but they dont. I suppose the way I look at it is that they have gone modern with the way they use less water, less time to heat up (because of less water) and more efficient soap powder/liquid .. but the its gone a step back in the case that now I think it doesnt keep the drum/gasket/door as clean and cushion the clothes as they revolve (and soaks them) , and possibly puts less wear on motor and belt? as when they used to have a good amount of water filling up to the bottom or halfway up the door) and at the end of the day the consumer is to perform a 90c maintenance was anyway once a month so that would push the electricity up annually anyway and take away the advantage of the savings of heating up less water to use less electricity!
  2. Hi all, great forum. I didn't know one even existed I have a Bosch WAS28466GB/05 Washing Machine It is one of these 'Eco' machines which personally I think is rubbish. It never seems to wash clothes or rinse as well as my cheapo Beko machine. I believe the reason is that there never seems to be enough water in the machine. The water pressure is fine, no filters clogged etc It has always been like this since day one so I suspect its a design of the machine and not the actual pressure sensor. Is there anyway to alter this or allow the machine to fill with more water. There is an actual setting on the machine to allow more water but I can never tell the difference. The water never comes up more that 10% of the drum. Any thoughts? Thanks all
  3. I have a Miele W906 that has behaved faultlessly for nearly 16 years. It has been plumbed in its current location for 10 years, connected to low pressure (loft tank fed) cold supply - there is no mains supply where it is located. It has just developed two problems, and one would think they are related but I can't work out how. Problem 1: With machine switched off but stop cock on, the drum fills with some fresh, clean water overnight. Stop cock off, this stops and if you take the detergent drawer out there is a drip, drip of water, hours after the machine has been used. Diagnosis = inlet valve failure (I have cleaned the filter). Problem 2 has appeared at the same time - if put on a rinse only cycle, the drum overfills - it fills half way up the door, then immediately pumps out, moves on to second rinse and does the same. However, it rinses perfectly during a normal wash cycle, filling just the bottom of the drum with water as it always has. This is repeatable behaviour - washes ok, rinse cycle alone not ok. I have done two checks - a) check voltage reading on the inlet valve during a rinse cycle, in case the valve is sticking open after power is off - it isn't. The valve is only open while it has power, it is the power that appears to be on too long. I pulled out the water level switch and checked the contacts work. It has three switches in it, which do appear to switch correctly in sequence when I blow into the tube. I haven't yet checked if the switches are actually activated by the water level during a rinse cycle - that might be the next step. My problem is this - a replacement inlet valve is £100. I don't want to sink this into a 16 year old machine if it has another expensive problem, like some controller failure and while I don't understand what is wrong. However, the machine is otherwise in good nick - nothing much seems to be worn. Anyone any ideas on how I can work out what is going on? Many thanks for any help Pete ps: No error shown on front panel at any point.
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