Sam74 Posted January 11, 2018 Report Share Posted January 11, 2018 Hello, I’m looking for some advice regarding a 10 year old Miele w524 which has a flashing drain light, I have been through all the posts on here and tried all the things mentioned, the machine has been taken apart by hubby and all pipes and hoses and the white box at the back cleared of a lot of gunk everything is now clear , taken off pump, all clear, still have flashing drain light at the rinse cycle , it worked on the wool cycle but this morning on a easy iron cycle same problem , it’s possible it works only with a light load , we also live in a very hard water area, I have it draining into sink now and the pump does work , so my question is really what next could it be and is it worth getting someone to repair as I can buy a new Miele basic model for £600 , and would Miele still be the recommendation of a new machine thankyou update Just doing a bit more research , could it be the brushes ? Although everything I’ve read suggests that the rinse light would flash if it’s the brushes , it would seem to me that the problem is with certain programmes I just tried a wool cycle again and it seems to be completing , I also forget to mention that it’s not been spinning fast if there is a normal load on a 40 cycle but if I take half out and spin it will spin normally washing machine will run on a wool cycle, doesn't always spin fully requiring me to put on spin cycle after, If I'm going to replace I've narrowed down to a Siemens with 5 year guarantee in johnlewis For £449 or cheapest model Miele for £599 with 2 year guarantee , sam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Root Admin Whitegoodshelp (Andy) Posted January 14, 2018 Root Admin Report Share Posted January 14, 2018 There are many things that could cause a washing machine not to start. I've covered the general issues in this article - Washing Machine Won’t Start If carbon brushes are worn you will normally get a strange noise when the drum turns. Not when you turn it by hand, but when the motor is running. It will often give a sort of crackling, grating noise. In theory if your Miele is only 10 years old then it should be worth repairing. My own Miele washing machine is about 12 years old and if something went wrong with it I would be happy to spend money having it repaired. However, unfortunately some of the prices of Miele repairs can be extremely high. So if we are talking hundreds of pounds then it may well be better to replace it. However, if it came to spending £200 on a repair to my 12-year-old Miele washing machine or £300 buying a cheap (ordinary) washing machine I would say that there is just as much if not more likelihood of the Miele lasting as long or longer than a cheap washing machine. Regarding the potential replacement washing machines you mention I would personally definitely favour the Miele. The Siemens will no doubt have far more "features" but it will not be a match for the build quality of a Miele. Need a repair or spare parts? Book a Repair | Buy appliance spares (Cheapest prices guaranteed) Warning: Read this before attempting any diy repairs. No representations or warranties are made (express or implied) as to the reliability, accuracy or completeness of advice. I can't be held liable for any loss arising directly or indirectly from the use of, or any action taken in reliance on, any information on this website, which is given free of charge and in good faith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam74 Posted January 15, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2018 Thankyou for your reply , we have managed to clear the drain light problem by cleaning the pressure switch trap which we had missed but we are now still not getting full fast spin ,so washing is very wet , brushes are only half worn but we are going to replace and see if that makes a difference otherwise I think I’ll get another Miele as I’m expecting the problem to be a more expensive one if it not brushes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Root Admin Whitegoodshelp (Andy) Posted January 15, 2018 Root Admin Report Share Posted January 15, 2018 Hello Sam. Replacing the brushes won't make any difference if they are making good contact. Brushes are either making good contact and working perfectly okay (no matter what size) or they are not making good contact and the motor will not run properly, again regardless of size. Washing machine carbon brushes diagnostics Need a repair or spare parts? Book a Repair | Buy appliance spares (Cheapest prices guaranteed) Warning: Read this before attempting any diy repairs. No representations or warranties are made (express or implied) as to the reliability, accuracy or completeness of advice. I can't be held liable for any loss arising directly or indirectly from the use of, or any action taken in reliance on, any information on this website, which is given free of charge and in good faith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam74 Posted January 15, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2018 Ah ok our brushes are very sooty maybe another problem in the motor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Root Admin Whitegoodshelp (Andy) Posted January 16, 2018 Root Admin Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 Hello Sam. It is normal for a fair amount of carbon dust to accumulate inside the motor. It can cause electrical shorting if it gets too bad because all of the dust of course is made up from the carbon in the brushes and is a good conductor of electricity. The picture you show doesn't look too bad. Just clean it up as best as you can. If you have one of those cans of air duster used for cleaning out computers it might do a good job. However do not breathe in the carbon dust. Otherwise use a nice long clean paintbrush or similar. A proper engineer would put an insulation test meter on the main motor casing and touch each connection and the motor plug to ensure there is no insulation leak. Need a repair or spare parts? Book a Repair | Buy appliance spares (Cheapest prices guaranteed) Warning: Read this before attempting any diy repairs. No representations or warranties are made (express or implied) as to the reliability, accuracy or completeness of advice. I can't be held liable for any loss arising directly or indirectly from the use of, or any action taken in reliance on, any information on this website, which is given free of charge and in good faith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam74 Posted January 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 Thank you for your help and just an update , hubby changed brushes and all seems to fine now, looks like it was a case of more than one problem, hopefully get a few more years out of it yet . Whitegoodshelp (Andy) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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