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Hello Andy - have you any Idea why on the Hotpoint/Indesit Drums (8kg/9kg) the paddles dont span the whole length from the front of the drum to the rear of the drum? - its almost like they have took a 5kg/6kg drum and extended the depth of it but still using the same length paddles. Does it have any bearing on washing the clothes? - would they wash the clothes any better if the paddles were the whole length of the drum? Do you have an idea why Hotpoint/Indesit have just stuck with the same sort of drum design for years (basic with just holes) when other manufacturers have changed the drum to include features such as a 'bubble' pattern or chevron pattern on the inside surface of the drum (which they claim is more gentle to the fabric) and why Hotpoint/indesit have just stuck with the same design paddles throughout the years straight with just holes in the top of the paddles/lifters where other makers have made their plastic paddles a curved design with holes in the front facing as well as top of the paddle? - Do these other designs what manufactures have implemented into drums and paddles wash the clothes any better in your view or any gentler of washing the fabric? Also , the (very old) Hotpints used to form the paddles into the material of the drums years ago and only started using the blue plastic paddles as we know them in the 90's. I am predicting it was for cost? or was it for some other reason. I am presuming it must be better to have the type of drum where the paddles are formed / welded metal in with the manufacturing of the drum because you dont have the issue of plastic paddles breaking off on the inside of the drum like the blue plastic ones do from time to time with some people. - what do/did you prefer (if any) drums where they already had the metal/stainless steel paddles built into the drum or this plastic type of removable lifters/paddles? - and can you still get any washing machines these days that have the paddles formed into the metal of the drums these days or do they all have plastic paddles these days, even the more expensive machines such as Miele etc? Interested on hearing your views.