Indesit Iwv5113

[morris822]

Hi, Whilst my WM63 was out of action I had to the use of my friends Indesit IWB5113.

That stopped working yesterday. On program 4 it injested water as usual, the drum turned a couple of times and then nothing. I read throught other threads on here last night before posting today but I don't have flashing light syndrome and whilst I couldn't open the door with the machine on/plugged in, I unplugged it and waited and the interlock system works as I managed to get the clothes out (albeit wet), so don't think the interlock is to blaim as other threads indicate. I turned the dial to drain and the drums span/turned (although all of the water did not drain) so not motor I don't believe either, but when I ask it in any cycle to work it just clicks from the front right.

Any other tests I can do or is it something on the circuit board that has expired?

BTW my WM63 is working a treat with the new parts installed (thank goodness).

Thanks in advance.

Regards

Neil

[Whitegoodshelp (Andy)]

First thing to check is the pump filter for obstructions.

[morris822]

Hi again, By the pump filter I hope that means the black screwie out thing bottom right of the washer that you get to by pulling out the white panel that hides it. I have unscrewed it and all the water came out, but no crap or gunk (if of course I have got the right part). If I have, next step would be to test it again?

Regards

Neil

[Whitegoodshelp (Andy)]

These should hopefully help How do I clean my pump filter – where is the pump filter? | Washing Machine Won’t Drain Water

[robodoc43]

Hello, I'm having a similar problem with an Indesit IWD 7145S. In seems to start OK, takes in water, spins a couple of times and then nothing. Timer counts down maybe the odd spin but not washing. If I manually select drain it will drain and eventually allow door opening. Same sort of behavior on both rinse and spin. Appears to start, couple of spins and then nothing. No warning lights or error messages. Have checked all the usual suspects. water is getting in OK and being pumped away OK. Heater is not open circuit, motor brushes are OK but something is stopping the programme proceeding. Looks like main board or am I missing something obvious? Any help would be much appreciated.

[Whitegoodshelp (Andy)]

When you say it spins a couple of times do you mean literally spins, or just turns around at normal wash speed? There's an important difference.

[robodoc43]

Sorry should have been a bit clearer. It actually spins but only very briefly.

[Whitegoodshelp (Andy)]

Thank you, a lot of people use the word, "spin" to describe drum rotation but spin should only be used to describe actual spin otherwise great confusion ensues :-)

If the drum actually spins a couple of times then stops I would check the tackle magnet on the motor. Obviously the drum should not spin on the wash cycle, it should turn in a controlled manner. Control of the motor is achieved through electronics in the main PCB combined with at small tacho coil and a revolving magnet in the motor.

If the magnet drops off or comes loose the washing machine loses all control of the motor speeds and can detect this and shut off. Read this article for further information on the tacho coil and magnet in washing machine motors. I can't say it is definitely this but it's definitely worth pursuing..

[robodoc43]

Thanks for the pointer. I'm in work at the moment but will have a look when I get Home. However, should I not be seeing error codes if this is the problem?

[robodoc43]

Sorry have just read back and realised I have not expressed myself very well. Initially machine takes in water and then turns at what I take to be normal wash speed a couple of times but then just sits. If I move manually to spin (having drained the water out) it does actually spin but only briefly. I have obviously misled you by suggesting that it is always a spin. . Sorry for any confusion.

[Whitegoodshelp (Andy)]

No worries. You're not the first or the last to confuse me with the word spin :-) just for the record if you use the word spin to an appliance engineer he is going to think "spin" as in the fast spin the end. As my previous reply describes there is a fault where the washing machine will fill up and actually spin a couple of times before detecting a fault and stopping.

However, if the washing machine takes in water than just turns the drum a couple of rotations at normal wash speed that is a very different fault. If the motor makes any strange noises when it is turning, such as crackling or grating noises then I would inspect the carbon brushes. But if it sounds perfectly normal then the behaviour implies a potential connection fault or a problem with the control module and I would get someone to look at it.

[robodoc43]

bit of an update: checked various possibilities and eventually went for a recon pcb. Fitted it and everything looked good, ie wash and rinse but no proper spin. Any program with a spin component appears to stall. If I try a spin on its own drum turns faster than wash speed but not at spin speed and speed setting have no effect. Timer does not count down. Any thoughts?

[edhorwood]

As stated before, it could be a motor issue. Unplug the wiring from the motor and check for burn marks. Check the tacho is all intact. This is a rotating magnet on the back of the motor. Check the wires all connect properly to the board (pcb). Check the brushes in the motor. The main board will send power to the motor down different wires for normal wash turning. There is something wrong with the power going down the spinning power wires, or the motor being physically impossible to reach the required speed.

[robodoc43]

Edd, thanks for the reply. I've checked the motor thoroughly already, took it out checked the brushes, connections etc and it looks really good, also the tacho. Hence why I fitted replacement pcb. Take your point about the motor not getting right power for spin so maybe problem with pcb programming. The pcb supplier has suggested checking heater for earth leak which he says can cause problems with the pcb. If that checks out ok he will take replacement and original pcb back for comparison and maybe re-programming. Any further thoughts much appreciated.

[edhorwood]

can't you take the wires off the heater and tape them up, then try a spin? that will test it?

[robodoc43]

yes did that and no difference. motor starts turning at what seems higher than wash speed and keeps starting to rev up but doesn't achieve any higher speed,irrespective of speed setting.

[edhorwood]

I wonder if you have a load balance sensor on that machine malfunctioning?