boots_nz Posted June 3, 2013 Report Share Posted June 3, 2013 Hi, my indesit WIL 82 has stopped working. Got home yesterday to find it steaming madly. It had heated the water soon much and for so long that the plastic drawer had deformed. How the washer turns on and the power led flashers away no matter which bottoms you press. At this stage the door does not lock or the machine does not start. You need to turn it off at the wall and back on again - then the door locks and the cycle starts without any bottoms being pressed. When its set to a wash cycle its pumps water in and washers, pumps water out and stops after approx 5 mins with power led flashing and that's it. The stage led's (indicate what cycle the machine is in) are not appearing at all though this cycle. They are also not no at start up. Can anyone help with a fix to this problem please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Root Admin Whitegoodshelp (Andy) Posted June 3, 2013 Root Admin Report Share Posted June 3, 2013 It could be the NTC temperature sensor but could be other things too. It's now detecting an overheating fault which is why it goes into the cycle of letting cold water in and pumping water out to get rid of the overheated water. If the light is flashing in a cycle with a 1 second pause you can count the flashes which will be an error code. Need a repair or spare parts? Book a Repair | Buy appliance spares (Cheapest prices guaranteed) Warning: Read this before attempting any diy repairs. No representations or warranties are made (express or implied) as to the reliability, accuracy or completeness of advice. I can't be held liable for any loss arising directly or indirectly from the use of, or any action taken in reliance on, any information on this website, which is given free of charge and in good faith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boots_nz Posted June 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2013 Hi Andy thanks for the quick reply. The red door light does not flash when in a cycle - its solid on. It flashers again once a cycle is finished and the door can be opened. Can i test the NTC temperature sensor? Is there other things I do do to work this out? Thanks again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Root Admin Whitegoodshelp (Andy) Posted June 3, 2013 Root Admin Report Share Posted June 3, 2013 It should flash when it detects the fault so that's what I would expect. When it stops half way through a cycle count the flashes. If it's a continuous flash and not pausing then it's not showing an error code. If some option lights light up they will be giving the error code instead. If so you need to report the number of the LEDs lit up such as 1 and 3, or 2 and 4 as described here - http://www.whitegoodshelp.co.uk/washing-machine-lights-flashing/ Need a repair or spare parts? Book a Repair | Buy appliance spares (Cheapest prices guaranteed) Warning: Read this before attempting any diy repairs. No representations or warranties are made (express or implied) as to the reliability, accuracy or completeness of advice. I can't be held liable for any loss arising directly or indirectly from the use of, or any action taken in reliance on, any information on this website, which is given free of charge and in good faith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boots_nz Posted June 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2013 When it stops it just keeps flashing red non stop. There are no other lights on or flashing...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Root Admin Whitegoodshelp (Andy) Posted June 3, 2013 Root Admin Report Share Posted June 3, 2013 That's weird. They should all indicate an error code either by a flashing light in a cycle of up to about 15 flashes, lighting specific option lights or in the case of washers with digital displays showing an actual code. The fact that it stops, and starts to pump water out and take in cold water shows it's detected overheating. Check the NTC for a loose wire or connection. They should have a resistance which changes at different temperatures but I don;t have the specific resistances. It might be worth trying changing it as they are easy to replace and relatively cheap, it should be right near the heater or pushes inside the heater and you can see pics and buy Indesit NTCs here- http://www.4washerhelp.co.uk/catalogue.pl?path=495970%3A599890%2C52691%3A495982&refine=NTC Need a repair or spare parts? Book a Repair | Buy appliance spares (Cheapest prices guaranteed) Warning: Read this before attempting any diy repairs. No representations or warranties are made (express or implied) as to the reliability, accuracy or completeness of advice. I can't be held liable for any loss arising directly or indirectly from the use of, or any action taken in reliance on, any information on this website, which is given free of charge and in good faith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boots_nz Posted June 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2013 Hi again, thanks for the info. All connections seem to be fine. The element has a resistance of 31 ohm. How to you check the resistance of NTC as there is not bare metal near? Do you need to remove this? On a side note i find this Could this be the problem? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Root Admin Whitegoodshelp (Andy) Posted June 4, 2013 Root Admin Report Share Posted June 4, 2013 The NTC has two connections and you measure across the pins. The video's not very informative to be honest because there's no sound and no indication what it's on about. It's entitled "how to repair Indesit washing machine that is flashing" but an Indesit washing machine which is flashing can have dozens of different faults and cures. If it means one that's flashing continuously without indicating an error code then possibly the fault is somewhere on the main PCB but it's all pretty vague. The video only shows one green light lit whereas you are reporting a continuously flashing red door light. I would advise getting an engineer in to be frank. DIY repairs are great if you have specific faults with little doubt as to the cause and the cure, otherwise you can just end up wasting hours researching and trying things, wasting money on unnecessary parts and it dragging on for a long time. Need a repair or spare parts? Book a Repair | Buy appliance spares (Cheapest prices guaranteed) Warning: Read this before attempting any diy repairs. No representations or warranties are made (express or implied) as to the reliability, accuracy or completeness of advice. I can't be held liable for any loss arising directly or indirectly from the use of, or any action taken in reliance on, any information on this website, which is given free of charge and in good faith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boots_nz Posted June 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2013 Hi Andy, I am still at it. I have removed the NTC and it has a resistance. I placed in warm water the resistance decreases - so I am happy that works. I know you have said get an engineer in. The thing is i am in engineer but not familiar with washing machines but loving the learning experience and hopefully be able to clean my cloths again. Can i ask what other things are worth checking please? Thanks Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Root Admin Whitegoodshelp (Andy) Posted June 5, 2013 Root Admin Report Share Posted June 5, 2013 Make sure there isn't a dodgy connection on the NTC and that continuity runs from the connectors back to the main PCB. If ok you have to start swapping parts starting with a new NTC. You could try sending your pcb to QER repairs to get it checked. Let us know how you get on Need a repair or spare parts? Book a Repair | Buy appliance spares (Cheapest prices guaranteed) Warning: Read this before attempting any diy repairs. No representations or warranties are made (express or implied) as to the reliability, accuracy or completeness of advice. I can't be held liable for any loss arising directly or indirectly from the use of, or any action taken in reliance on, any information on this website, which is given free of charge and in good faith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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