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Hello, Well today I have just had my new washing machine delivered which is a Miele W2839i semi-integrated model. I was wondering if anyone has had experience of fitting one of these? The problem i have is; It only stands 82cms high and i need it to fit up to the underside of my worktop which is 87cm. Is there any way i can achieve this as the feet on the machine only adjust marginally by 8mm. I thought all front load washing machines were the same size, obviously not!

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Richard

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Thanks for the update Richard. Unfortunately, as is often the case with Mile, their spares and accessories can be frighteningly expensive. Maybe they only want to sell them to rich people? That price represents 21% of the cost of a new basic Miele washing machine. Unfortunately it's the kind of slow moving part that won't benefit from mass production or economies of scale but even so it seems ridiculously expensive just to ensure the washer fits properly in its intended place. Is your kitchen none standard? If you have a standard kitchen size it seems strange that the built in washing machine isn't designed to fit straight out of the box.

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Or you could find yourself a bit of 40mm off-cut worktop in BQ and cut it to size to fill the space. Its not much help having a pop at Miele; they clearly tells you its 820mm high in the brochure!

Ha ve a long and happy relationship with your Miele; hopefully it will bethe start of a long and happy relationship.

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As I said in my reply, if the kitchen is non standard height then fair enough, Miele provide a way to make it fit "properly" and it's going to be expensive. But if the kitchen is standard dimensions then no extra part should be needed to make it fit. I can only assume it's the former as it would be out of order to sell built in dishwashers that don't actually fit in a standard UK kitchen without an extra expensive bit.

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As I said in my reply, if the kitchen is non standard height then fair enough, Miele provide a way to make it fit "properly" and it's going to be expensive. But if the kitchen is standard dimensions then no extra part should be needed to make it fit. I can only assume it's the former as it would be out of order to sell built in dishwashers that don't actually fit in a standard UK kitchen without an extra expensive bit.

Many thanks for your response! What a nightmare of a weekend i have had getting the Miele fitted. If i knew it was going to cause me this many problems i would have not bought it. My kitchen is just an average run of the mill Wickes kitchen, where the worksurface stands 87cms from the ground. I think this is pretty much a standard height. A freestanding washing machine would just slide underneath neatly. I bought the Miele thinking it would be like the integrated Bosch dishwasher i bought a year ago and have adjustable feet to raise the height. However i was wrong! Anyway, i ordered the height compensation frame and it was delvered friday. I unpacked it to have a read of the instructions and it looked straight forward enough. Got my Dad over saturday morning and we disconnected the old built-in Baumatic and took it down the tip.

When we got back to mine, we opened the garage and unboxed the Miele. The pair of us then struggled to carry it through my house into the kitchen. We laided it sideways on a thick blanket and bolted the height compensation frame onto the base, picked it up and shuffled it over to where it was to be installed. We got all the plumbing attached easy enough, go to shunt the machine back and it won't go all the way back because of a waste pipe on the wall behind. Therefore i have had to have all my waste pipe relocated at more cost just to get it in! The next problem i'm faced with is the bottom of the machine stands further forward than the plinth, so now i can't even put the plinth back in place!!! So much for integrated!!! The depth of the space is 60cm as it says it should be in the manual! If i push the machine back any further to put the plinth on the control panel will disappear under the counter! What a nightmare!! I assume Miele's rich customers have somebody to install these machines?! Who knows!!

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Yes, reassuringly heavy are'nt they !

In the brochure it has a build in diagram showing height, depth and plinth recess dimensions. Always good to check these whatever appliance you are intending to build in; also worth discussing your intended purchase with an expert to make sure you are not buying a square peg for a round hole.

One of the things about the Miele washing machines is that their rock solid stability would be compromised if the feet were set back in the same way as a dishwasher simply because of all the weight of the cast iron spider and counter balance it contains.

A Miele specialist would or should tell you that there is the requirement to set the plinth forward on Miele integrated laundry products; they will also know about the cast iron frame to lift the appliance if required, not an uncommon feature, Bosch had the same requirement until recently.

The Miele built in laundry products are somewhat unique in the way they fit; they are the only products that feature a semi-integrated furniture door as opposed to the more common fully integrated models.

Plumbing on the wall behind appliances is the bane of any fitters life; nobody knows its there till the old product comes out!

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Yes, reassuringly heavy are'nt they !

In the brochure it has a build in diagram showing height, depth and plinth recess dimensions. Always good to check these whatever appliance you are intending to build in; also worth discussing your intended purchase with an expert to make sure you are not buying a square peg for a round hole.

One of the things about the Miele washing machines is that their rock solid stability would be compromised if the feet were set back in the same way as a dishwasher simply because of all the weight of the cast iron spider and counter balance it contains.

A Miele specialist would or should tell you that there is the requirement to set the plinth forward on Miele integrated laundry products; they will also know about the cast iron frame to lift the appliance if required, not an uncommon feature, Bosch had the same requirement until recently.

The Miele built in laundry products are somewhat unique in the way they fit; they are the only products that feature a semi-integrated furniture door as opposed to the more common fully integrated models.

Plumbing on the wall behind appliances is the bane of any fitters life; nobody knows its there till the old product comes out!

I have now got the Miele actually looking like it does in the brochure!! But.... to get it looking right i have had to cut the existing plinth which covers the bottom of the sink unit, dishwasher and another cupboard. Luckily in my garage there is extra plinth that wasn't used during the kitchen re-fit so i have slotted that across the front of the original plinth and used adhesive velcro strips to hold it in place. The problem i have now is i cannot open the dishwasher properly. So until i get a chance this weekend to find a solution to this problem i am doing my washing up in the sink! My mother will be so proud! Maybe i have made more work for myself, but it was the only way i could cover the base of the Miele and the ugly frame!

Anyway, the Miele has now completed it's 3rd wash!! I am pretty impressed at how quiet it is, unless i stick my ear against the door panel i wouldn't know it was doing anything! Lol. The best thing though is the quietness of the drain pump!!! The old Baumatic would drive me to distraction when it kept pumping every 5 minutes and it was so so noisy!! Even the final spin is completed with no fuss, it doesn't take 15 minutes to distribute the laundry and then attempt a spin like the Baumatic. The Miele does a spin burst or two and then the next thing it ramps up to full speed!! Amazing!! Just what i wanted a washing machine to do.

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Glad you are enjoying the benefits of your Miele.

The 'standard' approach with the plinth is to keep it in one piece but pack the clips out to the required depth. That way you get one continuous plinth at the same depth along the kithen run. You lose a bit of toe space but it looks better on the eye.

The doors either require a firm push directly behind the door catch or as you have discovered a bit of a 'slam'; either way is fine; no harm in it.

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Oh; and regarding the dishwasher, you will have to cut a slot out of the top edge of the plinth to allow the dishwasher door to open fully. Always a ying where theres a yang!

The Miele is working well but there are a couple of issues i have with it. Firstly, when the program has finished and i open the door there is a puddle of water in the door seal, i have to get kitchen towel to soak it up once i've finished using it and also the glass door is covered in water droplets. I have never had this problem with any other machine. Is this normal with Miele?? Could it be due to the fast spin??

Richard

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It's normal with many machines. It's usually best to just leave the door open or ajar for some hours after use. The bottom of the door seal has to have a dip in it as the door seal needs to be bigger than required so it has room for movement on spin. If the door seal didn't have the drop in it at the bottom it would rip on spin when the machine shook about. Inevitably water collects in this dip, some hold more than others but most have drain holes at the back of the door seal but they are always higher than the level of water that gets left after a wash cycle.

The only washing machine I know that avoided this issue is the Dyson washing machine which had a totally different seal but sadly it was discontinued after just a few short years.

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