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Hi Andy. what are you like on Tumble Driers - had much experience with them? I bought a new Beko DTGV8000 Vented Tumble dryer from currys a couple of weeks ago and its replacing our Beko Condenser which we have had for about 5 years or so. Wanted to get a vented one this time because the room the condenser dryer was in got so hot and damp , so now at least the hot air and moisture now at least is is at least being carried outside through the wall vent now. I dont find it brilliant on 'extra dry' like the last one. OK they come out dry, but not really bone dry, a bit damp sometimes and a couple of times had to put the stuff back in. - I have noticed, and got to wondering if it because now it looks like Beko (and maybe other manufactures do now) have moved the drum sensor(s) to underneath the lint/fluff filter (in a god awful place to get to, to clean now) whereas before there was 2 metal strips at the bottom of the porthole inside the drum. With the 2 sensor strips in the drum , the clothes/laundry rubbed against the sensor and if they were wet the sensor would send a signal to the electronics on the panel and stop the machine when the clothes/laundry were dry. - but how does it work in this new way they have done it now where they have put a sensor underneath the fluff filter where the clothes cannot brush past the sensor? - could this have a rubbish effect on drying and just measure the moisture content flowing out of the drum past the fluff filter now would you know? Now to get the clothes/towels real dry now I have to select 'Towels' cycle and they come out nice and dry now. But I have a feeling this is timed drying and not one of the sensor drying programs. whats your view?