If anyone know off any please let me know

Thanks

Shrug

My current machine is a Bosch washer dryer bought 14 years ago, with light use from one person. After 8 years the sump motor failed. I replaced it myself with a compatible unit, tedious but not complex. A few years later the wash water stopped heating. I replaced the heating element and then the thermostat with compatible ones. Still no joy. Not long after the tumble dryer failed, the washing did not dry, I think the blower failed, an expensive component. So I now have a dehumidifier which to be honest is much better than the tumble dryer, cheaper to run, and it dries the house too, stopping mould. Recently the washer made noise while spinning, indicating trouble with the bearings. I don’t know how long it will continue in this state. 

I’ve decided to replace it, and thought Miele would be ideal. However, the latest Which report shows that Miele have roughly the same failure rate within 7 years as many other brands (1). And a user report on another forum describes appalling warranty support from a Miele with a ten year warranty. Currently the warranty is only two years which suggests lack of quality. 

I can get a Bosch washer with a 5 year warranty for about £500, they seem to be a decent brand. Bosch has the advantage that I can do basic maintenance myself, whereas Miele components are expensive. And I am not convinced today’s Miele machines are more reliable, despite many components being more robust. I’d love to buy a better machine that lasts much longer and saves landfill, one £800 machine instead of two £400 ones sounds great, but I’m not convinced it works like that. 

Comments please, especially if I’ve written any nonsense. 

(1) The Which report is a bit poor IMO. It does not tell us what sort of issues the Mieles had, were they minor issues due to posh people having high expectations, or serious costly ones? Was it circuit board failures, or seal leaks, motor failures? Were they mainly cheap machines that failed, or all models, or even mainly expensive machines with more fancy stuff inside? What is the 10 and 15 year failure rate? Miele are supposed to last yonks, whereas my Bosch is clearly designed for a 5 year life given normal family use. And of course the Which report tells us about machines sold years ago, not today’s models. That said, I conclude that they are not as reliable as we are led to believe by the “designed for 20 years lifetime” marketing.

The washing machine leaves stains on any clothes (see attached images). This is most noticeable on dark clothes such as black and red.
I opened the top of the machine, cleaned out as much of the grime on top of the drum as I could and then found a thick layer of disgusting built-up grime on the outside of the drum. I put a towel behind the drum and spined it until the towel turned black (see attached videos and images). I washed the towel and repeated this over 20 times. In the attached video you can see the gunk coming out through the holes in the drum of the washing machine. The towel pushed all the grime inside (see videos here and here). I repeated the process until there was apparently no grime left on the towel or in those holes. There seems to be no grime now, at least on the outside of the drum.

After that, I used 2 liters (a cup at a time) in the "liquid bleach" dispenser and inside the drum itself, one cycle after another for several hours straight, and used the "clean washer" cycle several times after that. But it doesn't seem to have helped, all the clothes are still stained. I think even though I cleaned outside the drum, there is still build-up grime underneath the drum.

I tried changing the detergent (even though I used the same one for 10 years in other apartments I lived in), using different cycles, cleaning the machine, etc, but nothing helped.
What can be my next steps to figure out the issue before asking the landlord to replace the washing machine?
BTW, when I moved into this house, the washer and dryer were extremely dirty and covered in sticky grime.

It can only take 4.5kg on the Mixed programme. I was using Mixed everyday for ages as it only takes 1 hr but the clothes always came out smelling rank. All other programs are 2hr plus but the clothes come out smelling good.

What programme do you use for normal every day washing? And how long does it take? 

Does it make any difference to the performance or life of the washer dryer?

* Magnetic wash-ball, German I think, I recently got one from Sainsburys (£3.99), supposed to reduce lime-scale build up and (I think) the amount of detergent you need to put in.

* Eco-balls, cost about £35 for three, supposed to eliminate need for detergents and conditioner for the main wash altogether (by introducing ionised oxygen into the wash to lift dirt). One set supposed to last 1000 washes, from what I've seen on the web some people seem to like them though one person said they had one break and the pellets clogged his m/c...

* Wash balls, seen them on a shopping channel, I think these are a set of heavy-ish ball that work by bashing the clothes in the machine to help out the wash (so you need less powder)

* Also lint-collection balls

If you have any helpful thoughts on these products please share, I'm all for reducing the amount of detergent and conditioner I need to use [though I don't have a Meile that will light up when there is too much powder]. I can see that they might work to some extent, but how good are they and are they worth the money, or will they just kill the washer before it's time?

Skeggy.

does anyone know of a suitable alternative, reasonably prices detergent that is either HE compatible or

they have personal experience using in a similar top loading washing machine that stipulates it requires an

HE detergent.

Hank you in advance for any replies,

robbie

I've just bought a new washer dryer, and it has a max capacity load of 6kg. However, for synthetics it says 2.5kg.

I was wondering, I am likely to cause damage to the machine, if I exceed 2.5kg weight of synthetics? The reason for asking is that I help with running football trainining sessions and need to wash 30 to 40 nylon bibs each week. I dont want to risk damaging the machine though.

Is the lower synthetic weight limit just because the material isnt as dense, meaning you'd struggle to actually load 6kg worth in the machine? Or, for some reason unknown to me, are you likey to cause damage to your machine if you excede the synthetic limit (when you're just washing synthetics)

Hope this makes sense!

Kind Regards

Ross

Thanks for your help!

The article contains useful tips and possible workarounds on reducing the height of a washing machine. This article is now on my main white goods site (Whitegoodshelp)  - Washing machines and associated problems with sizes

I wrote to the company asking this more than a fortnight ago and have not had a response. The manual says:

Washing Temperature: both 60°

Max Dry Laundry Amount: both 6kg

Detergent Compartment: Pre-Wash Cotton: 1&2, COTTON ECO 60°: 2

Programme Duration (minutes): Pre-Wash Cotton: 164, COTTON ECO 60°: 200

Laundry Type / Descriptions: both: Dirty cotton and flax textiles, (underwear, linen, tablecloth, towel (maximum 3kg), bedclothes etc.

My questions:

What are the differences between these programmes?

What happens in each?

Why is there a 36 minute difference?

Why, if the first programme includes a pre-wash and uses both detergent compartments, instead of just one, is it shorter?

Thanks for any help.

I've Samsung WW95T534CAE 9kg machine which is terrible at rinsing (2 years old). First I though there was an issue with draining pump, but Samsung tech changed the pump and it is still rinsing badly. Now I made some research and thanks to Andy's article I noticed that this is much bigger issue and seems to be a common problem with modern machines. So my question is, is there any machine that does the rinsing well? I bought "Which" permissions and found a few LG machines that were rinsing well, but those machines are old, so I no one in Finland is selling them anymore. Does anyone have any recommendation or another website which shows rinsing results as well? I found a Finnish "which" company and in their tests all the machines were terrible at rinsing (my machine was one of them grade: 4/10). Or can I do something that my Samsung rinses better? I have already changed settings so that the machine uses the minimum amount of detergent and we don't use softener at all, also water setting is set to soft as we have soft water. I watched some videos and some people are adding extra water on rinsing cycle to the machine. Of course this solution is very time consuming and far from perfect but the current situation is untenable.

Summing up: I'm outraged and confused to the manufacturers and to the companies who test these things. How can they recommend and write that this machine is the best washing machine on the market when it's so bad at rinsing. Washing result in my mind is actual wash + rinsing. Its good to get stains away but what do you do with clothes that are full of soap when "washed"? Its like my hands are dirty so I use soap to get the dirt out of my hand but if I'm not using water to get that soap away - what is the point?

Thanks in advance for every response!

Interested to hear the views of those with auto dosing washing machines...

Are they perfect?

Or do you have pain points with them?

If you had the choice, would you buy again?

Look forward to hearing your views.